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Below are a selection of the comments posted on the online version of the Bucharest Daily News. Many of the comments on the article are quite moving, and reflect the extraordinary amount of pent-up frustration of many readers with this situation. May are spontaneous testimonials from adoptive parents of Romanian children and Roma (gypsy) children. Some of the comments regarding the Baroness Nicholson and her key role in interdicting Romanian adoptions are strongly emotional, angry, and attack her personally. Some raise questions about a personal agenda based on her personal history. Nobody's Children does not endorse personal attacks, but provides these so that our audience may understand the full spectrum of facts and emotion regarding this situation. 1. Feature article
"Orphans of our Discontent"
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Thank You |
| Posted by: Pamela Maloney at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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Thank you for writing this article. The individuals who are making
the decisions regarding international adoption in Romania have no
idea the impact they are inflicting on all of those children who are
growing up in institutions. The lives of those children are
irreparably and forever altered because they are not being allowed a
chance at a family. My husband and I adopted two boys from Romania 5
1/2 years ago and during that time, we have watched what the love of
a family can do for a child. With Romanian officials arguing the
best interests of the child (home country vs. adoptive country),
should it really matter what country the child lives in? In the end,
isn't what should matter, is that a child have a family? This
adoptive parent thinks so.
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| Posted by: KathleenRichards at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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I appreciate that Denisa Maruntoiu reported about this case with
accuracy. I am sure that many people reading this article had no
idea that the matches they had were not part of the pipeline cases,
or that the children were actually not eligible to be matched. I
think they really must have been eligible at the time of the
matches, and that someone in the Romanian government is saying
otherwise to cover their tracks about not proceeding with these
adoptions.
I find it horrifying that people of authority can
thoughtlessly harm these children by making this whole issue about
Romania's membership to the EU. Babies and toddlers have turned into
young children, being left in limbo without loving parents, Romanian
or otherwise. How can anyone ever justify that the political needs
of Romania were more important than the future adults of Romania or
the world. We all know that hundreds of children have been neglected
in this process. This is the largest injustice I have ever been
witness too in my life.
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| Posted by: Beverly Kelly at Friday, February 3, 2006 | |||||
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I am one of those families that was matched with a child four years
ago. I was not told she was too young to be adopted. We started
trying to adopt in January 2000 and we waited all those years based
on Romania's statement that international adoptions would open again
under more transparent adoption rules. Rules to avoid corruption I
totally agree with, but rules that prevent children from the chance
to have a family that will love them I totally disagree with. Thank
you so much for writing this article that shows the whole truth
behind this issue.
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| Thank You |
| Posted by: Maire Hayes at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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Thank you Daily News for publishing such wonderful articles and
highlighting the fact that the Baroness would not give you an
interview. the article was very well written and did not hide
anything from anyone-only told the truth. I wish you highlight the
reports on the many babies now lying several to cribs in hospitals
because of the fact this new law will not allow them to go into
Orphanages and they have been abandoned. I am the proud mom of 2
Romanian children home 6yrs now. My children are very proud of their
Romanian heritage and tell everyone that they are from Romania. Keep
up the good work
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| Exceptional cases? |
| Posted by: Ed Gehringer at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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I agree that the article covered both sides of the issue, and to
grant the Baroness a rebuttal of the same length would bias coverage
toward her pitiful position. As the father of two girls adopted as
"pipeline cases" during the moratorium, I can tell you that
Bertizi's definition of "exceptional cases" as children over the age
of 3 was a new one to me. During the moratorium, waiting parents
were repeatedly promised that their cases would be processed under
the laws existing at the time they applied to adopt.
The second moratorium (October 2001) completely cut off the
processing of pipeline cases for a time, but when Nastase visited
the US in November 2001, he again promised that a commission would
be set up to process these cases. And it eventually was, though it
took a lot longer than we were led to believe. I know that some of
the pending adoptions were not completed. There was no
"transparency" to the process; i.e., no one knows the reason why
some adoptions were allowed while others were not. There have been
several rumors, and contradictory explanations by officials.
In my book, any prospective parent who maintains a relationship with
a child through five years of political turmoil is a faithful and
dedicated parent, who would love and cherish the child forever. With
so many Romanian children lacking parents who want them, it just
doesn't make sense to stand in the way of a relationship (with a
Romanian or a foreigner) that will provide security for the child.
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| Story Behind the Story |
| Posted by: Jill at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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Perhaps the Bucharest Daily News could give equal space to the true
story behind the Baroness's aversion to international adoption. The
Romanian press has given little coverage to Ms. Nicholson's personal
story. The Baroness should be interviewed about her failed
international adoption and thus, her failure as a mother. Romanians
need to know that's the true motivation for her campaign to stop
international adoption. It is not any love for children, or the
understanding of the importance of a family on a growing child.
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| Reply to Editor's Note |
| Posted by: Linda Robak at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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I find it both astonishing and hilarious that Baroness Nicholson
feels she deserves "equal space" in the Bucharest Daily News to
espouse her lies and propaganda. The Baroness and her "allies" have
certainly received innumerable print and press opportunities
throughout the years in the media - including this paper - to spread
such vicious and untrue lies and allegations of adoptive parents
selling their children's organs (which the UN reports as the world's
biggest urban myth), that adoptive parents weren't qualified to
adopt in their own country and so they turned to Romania, and that
adoptive parents are child traffickers - to name but a few.
It's puzzling that she is suddenly enraged when a story that
presents both sides of the issue appears in print. She also fails to
mention that the United States is a sending country (our children
may be adopted abroad), that the UN Convention on the Rights of the
Child and UNICEF and the Hague Treaty do permit inter-country
adoption, and while she's at it perhaps she may also want to explain
how the 84,000+ children in state care are going to have their files
reviewed on an annual basis - a requirement for both domestic
adoption and the new "child welfare" legislation when there are
neither the funds nor the staff to fulfill this annual requirement,
and how it is in "the best interests of the child" to force 4th
degree impoverished biological relatives to take a child in their
care who have never shown any interest in the child and whom the
child has never met.
She might also want to explain why it's considered a courageous
decision in her own country for a birth mother to choose to give up
her child in the hope that the child will have a better life but in
Romania an unwanted child is forced back on the biological mother -
or relatives who are so impoverished they are only doing it for the
money.
On second thought, perhaps the Baroness could use her press
opportunity to explain why it is permissible for her to become the
legal guardian and foster parent - and attempt to adopt - a child
from Iraq who needed medical treatment, taking him away from his
native language and culture, but it is not permissible for other
foreign parents to do the same. Perhaps she could also detail the
foster parent training she took to enable her to care for this child
since she had no previous parenting experience, why she would place
a child who had had 26 surgeries and is still disfigured in boarding
school, and how much of the 8MM pounds she raised in his name paid
for his care and education.
Please also let the Baroness know that For the Children SOS and
other grass roots advocacy groups for the abandoned children of
Romania are not professionals, one of the 4,700 well paid EU
lobbyists, or even non-profits. Our efforts are paid for out of our
own pockets - and we are not rich. One family even sold a cow from
their farm to help pay for our efforts to bring attention to the
plight of these children. It must be quite inconceivable to the
Baroness that we care so much for these children - and many of us
are not "waiting parents" - when she has obviously proven she cared
so little for the one she called "her son".
And, although Romania has made great strides in their care of these
children, much of what has been done to improve the conditions of
these voiceless children has been done by foreign NGO's and with
significant contributions from the EU and the United States and
Romania still has a long, long way to go - starting with throwing
out the current child welfare legislation and rewriting it to ensure
it truly is in "the best interests of the child" and not in "the
best interests of Baroness Nicholson".
Linda Robak, Proud mother of a 7 year old adopted Romanian daughter
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| "I demand..." |
| Posted by: Vali Nas at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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"I demand the newspaper's editor..." How huge is this woman's
arrogance? Who does she think she is? Baroness Nicholson always
places equality signs between intercountry adoption and trafficking
in children, although there is obviously no connection between the
two. Well, the 2004 Romania Country Report on Human Rights Practices
shows that the number of cases of trafficking increased after the
foreign adoptions were completely stopped. Interesting, isn't it?
"I demand" that the baroness explains this paradox. "During the
first 9 months of the year, police identified a total 964 victims of
trafficking (573 women, 391 men). Of this number, 217 were minors
(80 boys, 137 girls). A total of 934 individuals were under
investigation for violations connected with trafficking, and, as of
September, police had arrested 162 suspects and dismantled 208
trafficking networks. Authorities obtained 74 final convictions
under the new trafficking laws. This contrasted with 2003, when
police identified 658 crimes, investigated 488 persons and arrested
146, and dismantled 210 groups." (http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2004/41703.htm)
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| Adoptive Parent |
| Posted by: Maire Hayes at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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We always knew she was crazy! Those MEP 's that are now fighting for
the children are MEP's that finally realize that everything is not
in place to take care of all the children still sitting in
Orphanages. They have seen first hand what is really going on.
Mairead Mc Guinness an MEP from Ireland was part of several articles
which were published in the Irish Independent of Oct 9th 2006. I'm
glad that for once when Emma snaps her fingers things do not go her
way,
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| Questions |
| Posted by: Florin Rapan at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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Since Ms. Nicholson has claimed in the past there were many cases of
trafficked Romanian children for their organs through international
adoptions, can she present the source data for such claims? I wonder
why a Romanian institution is preferred to a loving family abroad.
If Romania respects the Hague Convention, could Ms. Nicholson
explain why the children that cannot be adopted in Romania are not
eligible for international adoption, as the Convention stipulate.
If there are problems with current practices under international
law, why doesn't Ms. Nicholson also lobby for making the
inter-country adoptions better, and safer for adopted children? I
also hope Ms. Nicholson and Romanian Government can offer a rational
explanation as to why Romanians living abroad are not allowed to
adopt from their native country, as can Romanians living in Romania.
I heard all the talk about Romania being the only place these kids
can grow happily, but I do not believe a word of that propaganda....
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| Orphans of Our Discontent |
| Posted by: Kathleen Dooley at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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What a fascinating article. The Baroness "demanding" press time and
coverage? If we follow her reasoning to its logical conclusion, then
people like us also deserve full and commensurate coverage. Indeed,
people like us, to whom Romanian children were referred, who jumped
through hoop after hoop, ensuring that the children were well-cared
for until we brought them home, who waited years for that special
moment when the children would be placed in our arms, only to have
their dreams shattered while the Romanian Government, dragged around
by the ring the EU placed in its nose, sold its and its country's
soul byt casting these children into an abyss of certain doom. Every
child deserves a loving home, but sadly, Romania believes otherwise.
And I believe that there is a special place in Hell for the
Baroness. She can demand all she wants down there.
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| A child's best interest? |
| Posted by: Elliot Forsyth at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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Denisa is to be commended, as is the Bucharest Daily News, first for
providing an honest and balanced view on inter-country adoptions
(which has been severely lacking in the European press), but also
for standing up to the "demands" of Nicholson. Much to her surprise,
the world is realizing her warped self-absorbed political agenda
imposed upon Romania's children is not truly "in the best interests
of the children" after all.
Anyone who has spent time working with abandoned Romanian children
will agree: more damage continues to be done by the Baroness in the
name of "children's rights!" There are hundreds of thousands of
inter-country adoption success stories, many being miraculous
life-saving stories; yet she still refers to these parents as "child
traffickers.". Anyone taking an honest approach to the child welfare
crisis in Romania would question Nicholson's hidden agenda. Thanks
for taking the time and space to show the other side of the story.
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| Offer them a better life |
| Posted by: JP Clement at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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We are biological parents of Alexandre, who's almost 16 , and
adoptive parents of Gabriel, 11, our Romanian born child . We live
in France. We wish to say how happy we are for having read in a
Romanian paper a so honest and balanced view on inter-country
adoptions (this is very unusual in the European press) . As
Maureen's son, we were not told before the adoption of the
disabilities our son might have. He 's partly disabled, but he is
doing as much as he can in school, due to special programs that help
him learn, and special long term training programs in orthophony and
psycho-motricity. Should we have known before about his problems, we
would have adopted him anyway, because we love him so much with or
thanks to his differences. It's undoubtedly a chance for Gabriel, of
course, to be brought up in a family who cherishes him. But we , his
parents and his brother, also consider we are lucky as we have met
this 'fragile" child who has allowed us to strengthen our
relationship in our little family, as he gives us some 'lessons of
life' almost everyday. We are very proud of him , and our relatives
are very surprised of what he can achieve now, knowing how difficult
it was for him to do basic efforts in everyday's life, 4 1/2 years
ago ...
Needless to say, we have always felt Nicholson's attitude and
attacks against foreign adoptive parents , very disgusting and at
millions miles of the reality that hundreds of thousands adoptive
families have to face everyday throughout the world. Mass
manipulation using strongly mediatized declarations in the press and
TV, has always been one of the favorite ways of spreading horrific
lies among various peoples, between 1917 and 1990 . We have often
been surprised that such a prominent rep of a UK Conservative (then
Liberal) party of UK could act this way in various countries in
Eastern Europe and also in the European Parliament and in the EC,
without being investigated by some honest journalists who
undoubtedly exist and work in these different places ... until
to-day and your article ?
In the memory of all children and teenagers who turned mad in the
last 'camin spitals' (that in fact, many foreign adoptive families
contribute to close through financial involvement in various NGOs),
and / or are still starving (either in Romania or in other countries
that are Nicholson's future targets), we really believe she 'll have
to respond of her crimes to her creator .
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| Accountability! |
| Posted by: Julie Murrell at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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Who amongst us is willing to hold the Baroness accountable for the
havoc she has wreaked upon the Romanian child protection system and,
ultimately, the lives of thousands upon thousands of innocent
orphans who have lost the chance at a permanent family? It is a
basic human right that the Baroness has denied these children. She
is personally responsible and must be held accountable. There must
be a ground-swelling movement to right these wrongs. If we do
nothing, we are all just as guilty as the Baroness.
The child we waited for 2.5 y ears to bring into our family is one
such child who needlessly did without a permanent family during very
formative years. It is to our Cristina (Ina) of Craiova , and the
children like her, that the Baroness owes the most.. It is
unthinkable that a family was available to her for years and adults
who were "looking out for the best interest of the children" said
"no" to her. We are good people who adopted in our own country first
and then sought an older child via international adoption. Despite
the lies the Baroness has spread about prospective adoptive parents
from the United States and other countries, we are amongst the most
highly scrutinized families on the face of this planet. We have to
satisfy two governments, our own and a foreign government, as to our
suitability to parent a child. What other group of parents in this
world have to do this!!?? Cristina's basic human right to a family
all those years was denied. The adults responsible should be held
accountable for this child's loss. I will forever be Cristina's
other mother, and this is something the Baroness can't take away.
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| at last |
| Posted by: Jocelyne France at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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at last ! at last articles which show the real problems of
international adoption. At last the testimonies of Romanian children
! Thank you, thank you so much ! At last articles showing how bad is
the point of view of the "baroness". How many babies now in
hospitals because no more institutions ? How many children without
hope ? how many children without real families ? how many roma
children never adopted in Romania ? I have a dream : may be one day
the actions of Mrs. Nicholson will be considered as crimes against
humanity, against childhood, against happiness.
Jocelyne, adoptive mother of a Romanian girl. She is French, she is
Romanian, she is roma and she is a very beautiful and intelligent
and happy little girl with a real family. in spite of baroness
Nicholson and others....
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| Whose best interest? |
| Posted by: Claudia Tolleson at Friday, February 3, 2006 |
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I have never understood why the Baroness says keeping children out
of families who happen to live in another country is in their best
interest. My husband and I are not trying to adopt our little girl
for our sakes, but to give her an opportunity to have a loving
family, which is her desire above all else. Her last letter says she
prays "in every evening" to come home. This is her home and we are
her family. She does not understand why she cannot come here. She
was abandoned at birth - 11 years 7 months ago. She does not know
her biologic family, but she knows us very well. Returning to her
biologic family is NOT "in the child's best interest." That was
attempted when she was about 4 years old, and was nearly fatal. The
Romanians have had over 11 years to adopt her. How long does she
have to wait to decide her only chance for a real family is
international adoption. Why can she not have her prayers answered?
Food and clothing and shelter are NOT enough for a child's
development. However, even after she is 18 and is not in an
institution, she still needs a family. Where did you go for
Christmas? I went home to my parents. Where will my daughter go? Who
will give my daughter away when she gets married? Who will be the
grandparents for her children? We are the best family she has, but
long distance is not a family. I cannot be there when she has a bad
day at school and comfort her. I cannot be there when she is
petrified of the dark, which she is. I was not there when she was in
the hospital twice - alone and afraid. No child should have to do
that, especially when there is an appropriate alternative. Who
decides what is in the best interest of the children? It should be
someone who understands that the best place for a child to develop
fully is with a loving family. Thank you again helping to show all
sides of this difficult situation. The broken hearts of children all
over Romania, waiting parents, and people who love children thank
you deeply.
Claudia Tolleson
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